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It seems to me you have two choices here. Either you a find a way to work together to finesse the draft worked on in mediation, or you can b decide to assess consensus on the draft the mediation parties agreed on. In my opinion, a is better, but the editors here have essentially been unsuccessful in doing method a for months now. I'm going to list the three raised proposals for consideration to try and gauge the feeling of the community as to the way forward.

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If I've missed any ificant views then feel free to add them as alternative proposals onto the end. To start off I'm only going to mark my preferred choice but it might be helpful to rate each proposal if supporting more than one and also to comment if you have relevant considerations about an option you are supporting. Jamieson talk21 February UTC.

Moore says the latter. It [BangShowbiz quote] is obviously reliable for the very limited self-identification; but, attribute it and quote it - by Fifelfoo. A note about the quote from the gossip website Bang Showbiz: Aside from being an anonymous item that is possibly plagiarized, it also opens up another can of worms, since we also have a quote from her in which she claims it was her father who named her from a magazine ad "Demi Moore" [press notes biography].

No Small Affair. Columbia Pictures. Evans, Cleveland August 25, Omaha World Herald. Moore wrote on Twitter, "Demi is the name I was born with! It has been a week and it is clear that Proposal one above has consensus. Lets finalise it and end this whole mess. Can we have the four representative footnotes for Demetria and Demi. How about Tenebrae chooses four for Demetria and Stuart can list his for Demi. If four of each is too much, I'm sure we could do three each if editors want.

Jamieson talk28 February UTC. Sources are divided as to whether her birth name is Demetria [1] [2] [3] [4] or Demi. Looking good. Should we impliment it? This isn't what was proposed at all - this was supposed to go in a footnote.

There is no agreement whatsoever to anything else. And there was much rejoicing! Why is there no mention in this article of her ificant relationship with Emilio Estevez? Demi was a big part of his life and the Brat Pack scene, yet none of that is included in this article of her life. Needs to be added. On the BLP noticeboard, Jimbo Wales raises issues with the lead in it's current form: As a means to address those issues, I'd like to propose the following:. Or something similar; maintaining a footnote about the name differences between sources but not debating it in the lead.

Jamieson talk15 December UTC. Hi, Symbols, and may I reiterate that I enjoy seeing the good, solid work you're doing. Here's the exact passage from Nancy Collins' major feature in Vanity Fair, the issue with the famous nude pregnant cover:.

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Moore's mother exercised one of her own options even before her daughter was born She left Demi's biological father, hooking up with Dan Guynes. Somewhat reluctantly, Demi explains her genealogy. He raised me. There is a man who would be considered my biological father who I don't really have a relationship with. Per my notes paraphrasing the rest: "Moore learned of him at age 13 when she found her parents' marriage certificate, dated February So the Vanity Fair article doesn't say she married Dan Guynes right away, but "hooked up" with him.

It's not unusual for couples not to marry until after is born. Either way, we can't say that Vanity Fair says something it doesn't say, and any deductions on our part would be original research. I was bom in ' The Huffington Post image and the infobox's Time image are virtually identical and offer no encyclopedic distinction. Two of essentially the same image means one of them is purely decorative and should be removed, especially given the of images in this article already.

For example, three formal portraits of a general wearing his military uniform may be excessive; substituting two of the portraits with a map of a battle and a picture of its aftermath may provide more information to readers. You should always be watchful not to overwhelm an article with images by adding more just because you can. I don't see where it says what name was on her birth certificate, or what her name was before she married Mr.

Moore was born in Roswell, New Mexico. Asshe had a difficult and unstable home life. Before she was born, her parents split up and her mother, Virginia Guynes, married Dan Guynes, a newspaper advertising salesman. Here's yet another news source that reports her real name as Demetria.

But we're not allowed to say that because of a Twitter feed. Due to the level of undiscussed edits by IPs against the established consensus, the article has been semi-protected so only registered contributors may edit. We aren't going to go through the whole debate again just because of a Yahoo video which mentions Ms Moore's name in passing. I see that this has been discussed time and time again, but I was just wondering why the birth name is not included in the article. A source already present in the article shows her saying she was born as Demi Gene Guynes.

Why is this not included? Zac10 September UTC. The Motherrr. However, when you go to monstersandcritics. That's circular citing, and we can't do that. I might be missing something here, but it sounds as if this is saying Demi's mother, Virginia, was named Virginia Guynes before marrying Dan Guynes. Moore's parents separated before she was born, with her biological father, Air Force man Charles Harmon, Sr.

I think this would accurately read " This took some digging. First, I removed the Phoenix New Times cite since that was just a letter-to-the-editor from a nondescript person and not an RS. Then I examined the Learnvest link herewhich cited BusinessInsider. I check s listed in Category:s with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors.

One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Demi Moore 's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which if any is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are ificant or not. See most of Archive 1 and Archive 2 above for the discussion. This horse is dead, flogged and buried since long.

Nymf hideliho! She also attended Redondo Union High School circait has been reported. Does it rhyme with core or with lure?

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Can somebody add that piece of information? It's beyond the realms of probability that someone could have extended Demi to Deme i tria if it wasn't true. Jimbo has first hand experience of this. He met Will. Aged 25, when a passport application resulted in him seeing his full birth certificate for the first time, he found that his real, full name was William James Adams Jr. I think this entire sub-section should be erased.

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The plaintiffs were obviously not credible, as stated in the body of the writing and in the citations, and both cases were thrown out by the judge many years ago. If anyone really wants to dredge up information about these discredited lawsuits, there are other websites on which you can read about them. Moore's reputation. She has been sued several other times in less-publicized lawsuits that are not and don't need to be mentioned on here. As a public figure and wealthy individual it's a given that she's been vulnerable to unmerited lawsuits.

We don't need to make such a spectacle of this. Iistal talk23 April UTC. There is no evidence that Guynes is or ever was her legal surname; "known professionally as" should be excised from the intro. It should only say Moore because public records [10] [11] and a photostat of a legal document [12] establish that Moore is her real and legal surname, not just a stage name.

I don't dispute that Guynes is a past name she has used; I dispute the suggestion that it is her name presently. She has not gone by Guynes since or earlier.

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I also suggest two other minor changes: 1 That mention of her being a high-school dropout and having posed nude for an adult magazine be excised from the lead; 2 That a brief summary of her marriages be restored to that section don't know why it was removed; in this instance the subject's personal life is prominent enough to merit mention there, e.

Angelina Jolie or Elizabeth Taylor. Iistal talk25 October UTC. I have just modified 10 external links on Demi Moore. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:.

This message was posted before February After February"External links modified" talk sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk sections if they want to de-clutter talk s, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. They quote her as saying her mother named her "Demetria".

I understand that there has been some prior discussion of her name, but this looks like conclusive proof.

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